the tooth fairy knows

The following article is being reprinted from the outdoor industry “guru” publication “SNEWS”. If one does not believe these people do protect each other one is not very bright. It is widely known throughout the outdoor industry that goretex and every other material represented as w/p does not work but they will not acknowledge that fact publicly. It does not matter to the promotors of the outdoor industry that they are promoting expensive worthless products. Every product sold that contains a material designated w/p is worthless to the purchaser of the product.

The following article asks people in the outdoor industry to choose which of these non-functioning products works best. The question posed asks about staying dry in the wilds. How is it possible to stay dry when you have covered your body with basically a plastic bag? If the question were posed to the general public the response will be significantly different; as in most people would say it does not work. But the industry people will support the premise that it does work.

“Poll | What waterproof/breathable technology reigns supreme?

Gore-Tex, Polartec NeoShell, eVent, Scholler c_change, or Toray Dermizax: What is your top pick for staying dry in the wilds?

Author:

SNEWS

Publish date:

Nov 28, 2017

Gore-Tex, Polartec NeoShell, eVent, Scholler c_change, or Toray Dermizax: What is your top pick for staying dry in the wilds?

Staying warm and dry when you’re out in the elements is a basic necessity. The science of how we do that is somewhat complex. Between PTFE, ePTFE, DWRs, and MVTR, it’s a jargon-filled world out there, whether you’re trying to sell outerwear or just decide what to buy.

Did you hear? Gore just announced 4 new fabric technologies that are not waterproof.”

“is somewhat complex”; no it is not complex at all. All one has to do is wear “garments that are made from vapor permeable fabrics”. And not w/p processed fabrics. Also, if the weather allows keep your neckline open to allow the entire vapor to leave due to your movements causing a bellows action.in view of the fact that these industry people have no concept of the thought process what can you expect? Stupidity in my opinion.

It appears that the gore company has also acknowledged that their stuff does not work so they are now developing a line of fabrics that are not waterproof. Now why are they doing that when for 40 or so years they have had a process that would allow fabric to be waterproof but also breathe? The answer is because they have finally admitted behind closed doors the concept does not work and if they are to remain in the textile industry they have to discard the concept. They will do this over a period of time I expect.

Regardless of your motive, we’re interested in your perception. In your opinion, as a retailer, a brand, which fabric technology is the best at keeping you dry?

The answer to the question posed is to start out with fishnet underwear, then have a layer of Lamilite and a final layer of Ducksback.

The following comment came to me based on yesterdays article.

Jerry,

Back when I was in the 10th Special Forces Group (Abn) we were the proponent Group for Winter Warfare. We worked with a Dr. who was the Army's cold weather injury expert, and he told me about the Sorel boots being used in Alaska on the pipeline build. Apparently the workers would lace their boots too tightly then when the felt absorbed moisture the felt would swell and cut circulation to the foot and sometimes cause a cold weather frostbite injury right up to the top of the felt inner. They were talking of calling it the "Sorel Injury" but apparently Sorel heard about it and threatened court action. The way they solved the problem was massive amounts of felt liners. Workers just had to put their old or wet liners on the door knob outside the room and a worker came by every night and exchanged them. I had wondered about us using them in the field, but even I wondered how we would dry out the liners at night, so to be ready for the next day. We had the black Mickey Mouse boots, but needed the White ones. The black boots come with a label saying not to be worn below -20 degrees F. We trained in Vermont, and just about every year experience -25 to -35 degrees F weather. In 1978 we were getting ready to hit a dam as a target (Back Pack Nuclear, or SADM (Special Atomic Demolition Munition) and as was normal we took a little Weather Station radio. The announcer said something like"

"Good evening folks, tonight is the coldest night in 100 years right here in Waterbury, VT, right now it is -37 degrees F"

At daylight the next morning my little EMS thermometer was pegged, and I thought it was -40 degrees F until I noticed the 5 graduations below the -40. Pretty accurate little thermometer so somewhere on the wrong side of -40 degrees C or F. Of course our Post Supply folks responded to my request for White Mickey Mouse boots with a letter saying my ACTUAL wartime area of operations did not get cold enough to justify issue of White Mickey Mouse boots. I never got frost bite of the feet, but came close and to this day my feet get cold very easily.

Sorry to rant and rave.

In the early 1990’s I supplied 10^th SFG with several hundred Ultima Thule sleeping bags at the German location, they are also in Colorado Springs where they bought hundreds of the Super Light systems.

When war started in Bosnia the 151^st Infantry also in Germany ordered the Ultima Thule’s based on the 10^th group success with them. Then 10^th group ordered about 500 pair of the Joe Redington mukluks for use in Bosnia. That winter was brutal and the issue boots as far as I know, I learned at the SHOT show broke down since they were never meant for the conditions the soldiers experienced, except the 10^th group. They had warm feet to begin with and their boots were protected by the mukluks.

Years later I started to receive a communication from a few of the guy’s who had been in 10^th group who still had the mukluks.

I have made some effort to work with the Warfare School in Vermont years ago, all to no avail. You see whoever is involved in purchasing at the state level since the school is part of the Vermont National Guard I believe knows more than I do. Maybe I should send them the picture of me skiing off of the summit of Mount Snow when the temperature on the summit was -60 F. I made one run testing a snowsuit and I was the only one to ski that day.

I am just a squeaky little voice in the wilderness offering the most accurate information that exists on how to stay warm and what fabrics and insulation (there is only one Lamilite/Climashield) will make the best insulated clothing on the planet.

So those of you who think down or primaloft are acceptable insulations or that w/p works I suggest you contact the tooth fairy for verification.